Best Of Jack Dempsey - Stream
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@tinoman2 Any need for that language, is that how you address your mother? Robinson was a better boxer, Dempsey was a better fighter - if yo know boxing you'll know there is a distinction between those two terms.
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@tinoman2 not at all...
@MrRoyalFatness Your welcome. JD, one of the greatest stories in fistiana.
at 0:41 he performs his famous Dempsey Roll, you can't see it that well but I think he threw Four chain hits. Awesome combo move :)
@1saxonwolf Well, thank you for setting things straight. I read the book about Dempsey - A Flame of Pure Fire - but it's been a while now, details get mixed up.
@1saxonwolf Well, thank you for setting things straight. I read the book about Dempsey - A Flame of Pure Fire - but it's been a while now, details get mixed up.
@MrRoyalFatness - Even Flynn knew it was a dive. He said " all I'll say is I threw a right hand and Dempsey Fell." Dempsey was literally living day to day, he needed the dough,thats why he never really liked talking about the fight in later years.
@MrRoyalFatness There's many apparent false stories about that fight & much confusion. Dempsey didn't have ribs broke against Flynn. It was JL Johnson fight. He wasn't left unconscious& purse stolen, that was Sudenberg fight. Flynn was 37 yrs & had 93 fights, already fought for title twice. Been fighting since 1899. Dempsey was only 21 & a nobody. Flynn was 5' 9 1/2'', Dempsey 6' 1. Many involved with the fight admitted a fix. $500 to take a dive, JD needed $. Yr later he Ko Flynn 1 rnd.
Jack Dempsey, awesome fighter - even Mike Tyson thinks so!
If you claim to have general knowledge of boxing, and still dust off Dempsey as old news, you have no general knowledge of boxing.
@sinusbradycardia Funny story actually... Dempsey had a few of his left ribs broken and/or bent by a bodyshot from Flynn, was left unconscious after the KO and had his purse looted while he was out. Flynn may have been little more than a journeyman (just as Jack at this point of his career), but he was a fully grown man, much larger of stature than Jack. The important thing is that Jack never went down for the count again.
Boxing in 50s/60s had evolved quite a lot already. Watch Sugar Ray Robinson or Muhammad Ali in 60s. They put on fights and showed show amazing technique that none of the fighters today are capable of. From Dempsey's times boxing has evolved a lot but Dempsey was one of the pioneers of this sport. His bobbing and weaving style had an huge impact to later generation fighters. He was true professional, first superstar in boxing and one of the first ones throughout sports in general.
We really need another Jack Dempsey in today's embarrassing heavyweight divisions.
@tinoman2 Well you're entitled to your own opinion and so am I but no way Dempsey is any better than Sugar Ray Robinson although I'd still rank Dempsey close to the top 10 rank because of his flashy style and aggressive style he has that could trouble almost any great Heavyweights with the exception of George Foreman and maybe Sonny Liston due to styles.
@sinusbradycardia Dempsey was a laborer as a teenager. He developed his body thru hard work in the fields, mines etc. His title reign weight was roughly 188=194 lbs. His listed body measurements were that of a heavier man. He trained down to around 190 lbs for his fights ,feeling it the best weight to fight hard for 15 + rounds. He was a beast.
@1saxonwolf The dive is a possibility. Dempsey was a great fighter and for only being 185lbs, I would have to rate him pound for pound one of the hardest punchers in history. I saw a slomo video of Dempsey's muscle's. He wasn't by no means muscle bound and had strong thin limps, but the one thing that stood out about his physique was his back muscles. Again not muscle bound, but was very muscler in the back. Tommy Hearns had a nice muscler back.
@sinusbradycardia Unfortunately, so called experts get it wrong. Flynn KO is questionable. Dempsey never admitted to taking a dive to the public. Close associates said he did. He was broke, needed $, got few hundred $. He partnered with Kearns/Hayes shortly afterward & started his ascent. He Ko'd Flynn year later with 1 punch. Those would be exciting matches. IMO Dempsey KO's both.
@1saxonwolf Ok, I took it out of context then. Larry Merchant once said Dempsey didn't have to fight black fighters, he should have said he had no title defenses against black fighters. As far as KOing Marciano, well Marciano was never ko'ed and Dempsey was, by "Fireman" Jim Flynn in the 1st round. Dempsey may have been young and inexperienced, but he was ko'ed. I would love to see these guys go at it. Along with Dempsey vs Joe Louis.
@sinusbradycardia Absolutely false statement you made regarding Dempsey not fighting black fighters. He fought black fighters before he was champ. Never defended his title against a black fighter, not the same thing. In every camp he hired black contenders to spar, including top contenders. Dempsey was no racist. Marciano wouldn't last two rounds with Dempsey. Agreed Marciano was a tough SOB.
I love Dempsey and Tyson was a huge fan of Dempsey, Tyson's head movement reminds me of Dempsey. However, Dempsey didn't have to fight black men. That is a fact. I'm not saying he would have lost, I heard the number black contender was not really to be feared, but it will always leave that question mark. Rocky Marciano fought fighter of any race. I think Marciano would have beaten Dempsey. Marciano was a tough SOB.
@mttpaul85 - You need to go join the circus where the other clowns reside. The tin man would be looking for that soft spot on the canvas as early as the one minute mark of the first round. Tyson would have trouble beating Willard, Dempsey might kill him!
@thehitchrules you asked tyson against dempsey???...that clearly should not be a comparison or even be a though of a match up....Tyson would beat that guy down so bad that dempesy would question himself if he is even a professional boxer...hes trash i dnt kno wut ppl see in that guy!!?
@fistking yeah dude youre entitled to your opinion but honestly the speed and power that this little guy brought against bigger opponents is truly staggering. This was a man who pretty much pioneered head movement,which he did not because some one taught him or because he sparred at some boxing gym, but because he handed guys their ass regularly in every bar and fight he walked into. Talk about the old school of hard knocks try learning boxing yourself by brawling.
I think like with EVERY sport and most things in general in life. People improve constantly, get more professional, improved diet, training, conditioning, better technique and knowledge. Watching these fights from the 50's/60's is like watching 2 drunk dads scrapping in a car park! But our grand kids will be saying the same about Floyd & manny
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